{"id":41,"date":"2008-03-19T13:14:48","date_gmt":"2008-03-19T21:14:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=41"},"modified":"2008-03-19T13:14:48","modified_gmt":"2008-03-19T21:14:48","slug":"my-take-on-the-heller-argument","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/illspirit.com\/blog\/41\/my-take-on-the-heller-argument\/","title":{"rendered":"My Take on the Heller Argument"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>After listening to the oral arguments and reading a bunch of reactions to it, I think Alan Gura did a splendid job. At first I was a bit perturbed that he agreed a ban on machine guns might be &#8220;reasonable,&#8221; but as <a href=\"http:\/\/armsandthelaw.com\/archives\/2008\/03\/transcript_of_h.php\">others<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.snowflakesinhell.com\/2008\/03\/18\/the-soliciter-generals-arguments\/\">have<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.saysuncle.com\/archives\/2008\/03\/18\/heller_thoughts\/\">said<\/a>, this was probably a tactical move to avoid scaring away any fence sitters. Likewise, the machine gun talk could have been a trap by the left half of the Court to get Mr. Gura to overstep the Miller precedent. This case isn&#8217;t about full autos though, so it&#8217;s kinda beside the point anyway.<\/p>\n<p>There was another exchange that puzzled me. At one point, Justice Ginsburg asked if it would be reasonable to require a license to posses a gun, which Mr. Gura answered with:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Well, the government could set reasonable standards for that, Your Honor. The government could require, for example, knowledge of the State&#8217;s use of force laws. They can require some sort of vision test. They could require, perhaps, demonstrated competency. And those are the types of things that we sometimes see; background checks, of course. Those are going to be reasonable licensing requirements.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Again, I realize that he was just playing it cool, and only arguing against the ban since that&#8217;s all that&#8217;s at issue here. But where the heck did vision and competency testing come from? Given the precedent (or lack thereof) stacked against us, I can understand leaving licensing alone for the time being. But do we really want to <strong>volunteer<\/strong> competency testing?<\/p>\n<p>Granted, this too could be strategery, so I&#8217;m really not blaming Mr. Gura for it altogether. However, I&#8217;ve seen it pop up in a number of discussions around the internet with more antis than usual pointing it out as if it&#8217;s a great new idea. The idea of competency-based licensing annoys me for two reasons:<\/p>\n<p>First, if we allow the government to set training requirements, what is there to stop them from setting the standards impossibly high? For instance, the anti-gun loons in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guncontrol.org.au\/index.php?article=4\">Australia<\/a> are demanding a &#8220;rigorous training and testing program over a six month period&#8221; to earn a license. How many people would really be able to quit their job for half a year to take such a course? Even if the requirements aren&#8217;t that ridiculous, wouldn&#8217;t it be kind of hard to be competent with something you&#8217;re not allowed to own until you become competent? Sounds like a Catch-22 to me. And what about, say, someone in a poor rural area who can barely afford a $200 shotgun or rifle needed to put food on the table? Does his right to keep and bear arms go away if he can&#8217;t pay for some class?<\/p>\n<p>Second, I fail to see how this even passes a rational basis test; let alone strict scrutiny. If the purpose is to prevent criminals from murdering people, wouldn&#8217;t training them to shoot effectively make them <em>more<\/em> likely to hit and kill their victims?! On the other hand, if the idea is to prevent accidental shootings, those are already exceedingly rare.<\/p>\n<p>According to the <a href=\"http:\/\/webappa.cdc.gov\/sasweb\/ncipc\/mortrate10_sy.html\">CDC<\/a>, there were only 789 Unintentional Firearm Deaths in 2005; which no doubt includes a good number of &#8220;misdiagnosed&#8221; suicides. Not to mention <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fbi.gov\/ucr\/cius2006\/data\/table_74.html\">683,396<\/a> law enforcement officers who have their own fair share of &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=1pf3ID3XQ6o\">accidents<\/a>&#8220;. Given that there&#8217;s ~80 million people who own an estimated 290 million guns, 789 fatal accidents is statistically negligible.<\/p>\n<p>To put that in perspective, there were 927 Unintentional Pedal cyclist Deaths and 19,656 Unintentional Fall Deaths in the same year. Ergo, there would be a far more compelling government interest in competency tests and licensing for bicycles, ladders, and windows in multistory buildings.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After listening to the oral arguments and reading a bunch of reactions to it, I think Alan Gura did a splendid job. 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