{"id":14,"date":"2007-11-27T21:22:47","date_gmt":"2007-11-28T05:22:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=14"},"modified":"2007-11-27T21:22:47","modified_gmt":"2007-11-28T05:22:47","slug":"line-in-the-sand-or-slippery-slope","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/illspirit.com\/blog\/14\/line-in-the-sand-or-slippery-slope\/","title":{"rendered":"Line in the Sand or Slippery Slope?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s an article over at <a href=\"http:\/\/news.spong.com\/article\/14345\">SPOnG<\/a> about Rockstar&#8217;s appeal over the UK ban of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rockstargames.com\/manhunt2\/\">Manhunt 2<\/a>. Arguing for the BBFC, Andrew Caldecott had this to say:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;Games and technology develop incrementally&#8230; If you take the comparable argument to its extreme, you get a gradual creeping towards ever more graphic violence, but you never draw a line at any particular point.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If you&#8217;re not careful you get into a peculiar game of Grandmother&#8217;s Footsteps, where everybody&#8217;s shuffling forward but Grandma&#8217;s never allowed to turn round and say, &#8216;Stop&#8217;&#8230; Is there never a point at which you can say, &#8216;This is unacceptable&#8217;?<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If there is a point, the question then becomes much more difficult: where do you draw it?&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>As a quasi-independent entity with the full force of law delegated to it by the state, then, no. There is abso-fucking-lutely no point at which you should stop and say &#8216;This is unacceptable&#8217; for adults to view. None. The whole point of freedom of speech is protecting unpopular speech.<\/p>\n<p>Now, slippery slopes usually make for bad arguments, but seeing as we&#8217;re talking about &#8220;drawing the line&#8221; for future titles, what happens next? What happens when the next would-be censor decides some other game crosses the line? I&#8217;ve beaten Manhunt 2, and it didn&#8217;t even seem as brutal as the first one, so the bar seem rather low.<\/p>\n<p>What happens when the next bureaucrat decides all war games cross the line because of fear they promote &#8220;gun crime&#8221; or something? Sounds far-fetched until you consider there were <a href=\"http:\/\/gamepolitics.com\/2007\/06\/10\/coe-bashes-sony-over-manchester-cathedral-setting-in-resistance-fall-of-man\/\">cries<\/a> to <a href=\"http:\/\/gamepolitics.com\/2007\/06\/20\/vaz-lauds-manhunt-2-decision-says-resistance-should-be-banned-too\/\">ban<\/a> another game for that very reason. And given the British elite&#8217;s pants-shitting hysteria over <a href=\"http:\/\/libertyzone.blogspot.com\/2007\/11\/wow-this-is-sure-to-make-streets-of.html\">toy guns<\/a>, well, yea.<\/p>\n<p>And given that about half the people posting at various game sites around the net don&#8217;t seem to care or about (or in some cases even support) the ban simply because they think the game sucks anyway, what motivation is there for the BBFC to <em>not<\/em> ban more titles when they think they can get away with it? But, hey, when they end up banning Mario because it&#8217;s insensitive to the turtles&#8217; feelings or some shit, don&#8217;t say we didn&#8217;t warn you.<\/p>\n<p>At any rate, this illustrates precisely why the US Constitution prohibits the state from granting legislative powers to unelected, non-accountable, private actors. Even though <a href=\"http:\/\/gamepolitics.com\/2007\/11\/23\/text-of-senators-manhunt-2-protest-letter-to-esrb\/\">certain politicians<\/a> would like to do otherwise..<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s an article over at SPOnG about Rockstar&#8217;s appeal over the UK ban of Manhunt 2. Arguing for the BBFC, Andrew Caldecott had this to say: &#8220;Games and technology develop incrementally&#8230; If you take the comparable argument to its extreme, you get a gradual creeping towards ever more graphic violence, but you never draw a [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/illspirit.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/illspirit.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/illspirit.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/illspirit.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/illspirit.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/illspirit.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/illspirit.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/illspirit.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/illspirit.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}